"On the battlefield I am a god. I love war. The steel, the smell, the corpses. I wish there were more. On the first day I drove the Northmen back alone at the ford. Alone! On the second I carried the bridge! Me! Yesterday I climbed the Heroes! I love war! I… I wish it wasn’t over."
Lionas tells you, "Empress." H:763 M:700 S:0 <eb db> Fling empress at Lionas added to your EQBAL queue. Your attack is repelled by an aura of raw Diachaim surrounding Lionas. H:763 M:700 S:0 <eb db> You sigh in relief as you realize the meteor is not heading for you. H:763 M:700 S:0 <eb db> Your foreboding stone glows, warning you that Tristam is nearby. <----EVEN LIONAS CAN TAKE DOWN A SOLO WALKER H:763 M:700 S:0 <eb db> (Ring): Lionas says, "INTERRUPTED." H:763 M:700 S:0 <eb db> Your foreboding stone glows, warning you that Tristam is nearby. H:763 M:700 S:0 <eb db> You quickly fling a card with the image of the Universe at the ground. The card vanishes into the earth in a spark of magick. Balance Taken: 3.20s H:763 M:700 S:0 <e- db> Your foreboding stone glows, warning you that Tristam is nearby. H:763 M:700 S:0 <e- db> Your foreboding stone glows, warning you that Kryss is nearby. <-----HERD!!!! Your foreboding stone glows, warning you that Lytharose is nearby. Your foreboding stone glows, warning you that Khizan is nearby. Your foreboding stone glows, warning you that Ferriter is nearby. Your foreboding stone glows, warning you that Vaughn is nearby. Your foreboding stone glows, warning you that Hiramius is nearby. H:763 M:700 S:0 <e- db> Lionas tells you, "Empress." H:763 M:700 S:0 <e- db> Lionas tells you, "Empress." H:763 M:700 S:0 <e- db> Your foreboding stone glows, warning you that Kryss is nearby. Your foreboding stone glows, warning you that Lytharose is nearby. Your foreboding stone glows, warning you that Khizan is nearby. Your foreboding stone glows, warning you that Ferriter is nearby. Your foreboding stone glows, warning you that Vaughn is nearby. Your foreboding stone glows, warning you that Hiramius is nearby. H:763 M:700 S:0 <e- db> Lionas tells you, "Empress." H:763 M:700 S:0 <e- db> Fling empress at Lionas added to your EQBAL queue. H:763 M:700 S:0 <e- db> Fling empress at Lionas added to your EQBAL queue. H:763 M:700 S:0 <e- db> Fling empress at Lionas added to your EQBAL queue. H:763 M:700 S:0 <e- db> Your foreboding stone glows, warning you that Kryss is nearby. Your foreboding stone glows, warning you that Lytharose is nearby. Your foreboding stone glows, warning you that Khizan is nearby. Your foreboding stone glows, warning you that Ferriter is nearby. Your foreboding stone glows, warning you that Vaughn is nearby. Your foreboding stone glows, warning you that Hiramius is nearby. H:763 M:700 S:0 <e- db> Your foreboding stone glows, warning you that Kryss is nearby. Your foreboding stone glows, warning you that Lytharose is nearby. Your foreboding stone glows, warning you that Khizan is nearby. Your foreboding stone glows, warning you that Ferriter is nearby. Your foreboding stone glows, warning you that Vaughn is nearby. Your foreboding stone glows, warning you that Hiramius is nearby. H:763 M:700 S:0 <e- db> [AL] Ahkan - southeast [AL] Raya - southeast H:763 M:700 S:0 <e- db> A shimmering, translucent image rises up before you, its glittering surface displaying the verdant grasslands, soaring mountains, sprawling settlements and deep blue seas of the Aetherian mainland. H:763 M:700 S:0 <e- db> +++++ BALANCE BACK +++++ BALANCE BACK +++++ BALANCE BACK +++++ A hazeward stone prevents the attempt. Balance Taken: 3.20s H:763 M:700 S:0 <e- db> Lionas tells you, "Empress." H:763 M:700 S:0 <e- db> Fling empress at Lionas added to your EQBAL queue. H:763 M:700 S:0 <e- db> Lionas tells you, "Empress." H:763 M:700 S:0 <e- db> Fling empress at Lionas added to your EQBAL queue. H:763 M:700 S:0 <e- db> [AL] Lionas - southeast <-----ALMOST THERE MAN..YOU CAN DO IT!!!! H:763 M:700 S:0 <e- db> Your foreboding stone glows, warning you that Kryss is nearby. Your foreboding stone glows, warning you that Lytharose is nearby. Your foreboding stone glows, warning you that Khizan is nearby. Your foreboding stone glows, warning you that Ferriter is nearby. Your foreboding stone glows, warning you that Vaughn is nearby. Your foreboding stone glows, warning you that Hiramius is nearby. H:763 M:700 S:0 <e- db> Your foreboding stone glows, warning you that Kryss is nearby. Your foreboding stone glows, warning you that Lytharose is nearby. Your foreboding stone glows, warning you that Khizan is nearby. Your foreboding stone glows, warning you that Ferriter is nearby. Your foreboding stone glows, warning you that Vaughn is nearby. Your foreboding stone glows, warning you that Hiramius is nearby. H:763 M:700 S:0 <e- db> Your foreboding stone glows, warning you that Kryss is nearby. Your foreboding stone glows, warning you that Lytharose is nearby. Your foreboding stone glows, warning you that Khizan is nearby. Your foreboding stone glows, warning you that Ferriter is nearby. Your foreboding stone glows, warning you that Vaughn is nearby. Your foreboding stone glows, warning you that Hiramius is nearby. H:763 M:700 S:0 <e- db> [AL] Gurn - southeast <------OH NO...RUN LIONAS RUN!!! [AL] Sadey - southeast H:763 M:700 S:0 <e- db> Your foreboding stone glows, warning you that Kryss is nearby. Your foreboding stone glows, warning you that Lytharose is nearby. Your foreboding stone glows, warning you that Khizan is nearby. Your foreboding stone glows, warning you that Ferriter is nearby. Your foreboding stone glows, warning you that Vaughn is nearby. Your foreboding stone glows, warning you that Hiramius is nearby. H:763 M:700 S:0 <e- db> +++++ BALANCE BACK +++++ BALANCE BACK +++++ BALANCE BACK +++++ You shuffle a card out of your deck and the image of the Empress appears on its surface. A hazeward stone prevents the attempt. Balance Taken: 3.20s H:763 M:700 S:0 <e- db> Your foreboding stone glows, warning you that Kryss is nearby. [AL] Kryss - southeast Your foreboding stone glows, warning you that Lytharose is nearby. [AL] Lytharose - southeast <----FOR THE LOVE OF GOD MAN, RUN!!! [AL] Bellentine - southeast [AL] Seraphyne - southeast [AL] Leighanna - southeast Your foreboding stone glows, warning you that Khizan is nearby. [AL] Khizan - southeast <----- I GUESS ALL THAT OP DRUID STUFF MAKES ONE SLOW Your foreboding stone glows, warning you that Ferriter is nearby. [AL] Ferriter - southeast <----- LIONAS HAS STOPPED SCREAMING BY NOW Your foreboding stone glows, warning you that Vaughn is nearby. [AL] Vaughn - southeast <------ OH SHI..A BARD Your foreboding stone glows, warning you that Hiramius is nearby. [AL] Hiramius - southeast <-----OVERKILL, DONT YOU THINK? H:763 M:700 S:0 <e- db> [AL] Ahkan - southeast <----- AHKAN IN SUPERHERO MODE AGAIN [AL] Raya - southeast H:763 M:700 S:0 <e- db> MASS DOWN You have lost the density defence. H:763 M:700 S:0 <e- db> You quickly rub some mass salve on your skin. MASS UP You have gained the density defence. H:763 M:700 S:0 <e- db> You may apply another salve. H:763 M:700 S:0 <e- db> Your foreboding stone glows, warning you that Tristam is nearby. H:763 M:700 S:0 <e- db> NEED BALANCE NEED BALANCE NEED BALANCE H:763 M:700 S:0 <e- db> NEED BALANCE NEED BALANCE NEED BALANCE H:763 M:700 S:0 <e- db> +++++ BALANCE BACK +++++ BALANCE BACK +++++ BALANCE BACK +++++ H:763 M:700 S:0 <eb db> Kryss outfoxed Lionas. H:763 M:700 S:0 <eb db> Your foreboding stone glows, warning you that Tristam is nearby. H:763 M:700 S:0 <eb db> You pick up a hazeward stone. I see no "monolith" to take. You shuffle a card out of your deck and the image of the Empress appears on its surface. You do not see that individual here. H:763 M:700 S:0 <eb db> You pick up a hazeward stone. I see no "monolith" to take. Nothing can be seen here by that name. H:763 M:700 S:0 <eb db> Your foreboding stone glows, warning you that Shaylei is nearby. [AL] Shaylei - southeast H:763 M:700 S:0 <eb db> You reach out and touch the map before you. Your surroundings spin as you melt effortlessly into the image. Iluv follows you to the ether. < ---ILUV IS GLEN. NOTICE HOW GLEN ALWAYS GETS AWAY? The Khandava Archway. (road).
Sometimes try as you might, a kid is gonna miss the bus from time to time
“We abjure labels. We fight for money and an indefinable pride. The politics, the ethics, the moralities, are irrelevant."
Before a circle of Giant Redwood. (road). Kryss outfoxed Lionas. <-- I felt sort of bad right here. You pour out the contents of a thick mug of Jackal's Bile on the ground. <-- For my fallen homie
tbh, when I saw how many people we had I tabbed out and went back to reading. I think my golem was aggro against him? idk.
"On the battlefield I am a god. I love war. The steel, the smell, the corpses. I wish there were more. On the first day I drove the Northmen back alone at the ford. Alone! On the second I carried the bridge! Me! Yesterday I climbed the Heroes! I love war! I… I wish it wasn’t over."
You tell Student of the Arcane, Blanel, "You cannot remain a citizen of Khandava if you are within the Vindicators guild. You will need to choose which organization you wish to keep." Blanel tells you, "Sorry, this is jeremy, I am testing newbie areas." Blanel tells you, "This is a temp character." You tell Student of the Arcane, Blanel, "You're killing my city affinity." Blanel tells you, "Muhahahha." Blanel tells you, "Kick me out, I am done with this anyways."
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I am the righteous one... the claims are stated - it's the world I've created
I assume he's fixing the problem with Celidon's newbie area and making sure the other ones don't have the same problem. The intro tasks were just stopping before sending you to learn from your tutor, speaking up on the channels, etc.
I normally target nothing when deliverance activates and yell it out on ring to everyone else. Too bad no one else there was able to yell it out for them.
[29/10/2013 - 09:58:10.307]: The sun has rendered you too weak to move a muscle.
[29/10/2013 - 09:58:10.308]: You flex your muscles and drive off the effects of paralysis.
[29/10/2013 - 09:58:10.310]: Your bandages staunch a good portion of your bleeding.
[29/10/2013 - 09:58:10.312]: Your tree tattoo can be used again.
Can I just say, if you're really going to have a kelp-cured killing mechanism deliver a top level maidenhair hinder, can you at least make sure it doesn't stymie itself by timing into the internal cooldown?
A hay-filled scarecrow says, "My my, you have found all of us. You have earned yourself a special prize." A hay-filled scarecrow hands you a scarecrow replica.
(Celidon): Brewsky says, "Hello, I'm new to this council and am going through my newbie tasks."
About time you got here Brewsky, I was feeling a bit parched.
Ancient joke, but you always need beer with your pizza.
<div>Message #2062 Sent By: (imperian) Received On: 1/20/2018/2:59</div><div>"Antioch has filed a bounty against you. Reason: Raiding Antioch and stealing Bina, being a right</div><div>ass, and not belonging anywhere near Antioch till he grows up."</div>
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"On the battlefield I am a god. I love war. The steel, the smell, the corpses. I wish there were more. On the first day I drove the Northmen back alone at the ford. Alone! On the second I carried the bridge! Me! Yesterday I climbed the Heroes! I love war! I… I wish it wasn’t over."
Lionas tells you, "Empress."
H:763 M:700 S:0 <eb db> Fling empress at Lionas added to your EQBAL queue.
Your attack is repelled by an aura of raw Diachaim surrounding Lionas.
H:763 M:700 S:0 <eb db>
You sigh in relief as you realize the meteor is not heading for you.
H:763 M:700 S:0 <eb db>
Your foreboding stone glows, warning you that Tristam is nearby. <----EVEN LIONAS CAN TAKE DOWN A SOLO WALKER
H:763 M:700 S:0 <eb db>
(Ring): Lionas says, "INTERRUPTED."
H:763 M:700 S:0 <eb db>
Your foreboding stone glows, warning you that Tristam is nearby.
H:763 M:700 S:0 <eb db>
You quickly fling a card with the image of the Universe at the ground.
The card vanishes into the earth in a spark of magick.
Balance Taken: 3.20s
H:763 M:700 S:0 <e- db>
Your foreboding stone glows, warning you that Tristam is nearby.
H:763 M:700 S:0 <e- db>
Your foreboding stone glows, warning you that Kryss is nearby. <-----HERD!!!!
Your foreboding stone glows, warning you that Lytharose is nearby.
Your foreboding stone glows, warning you that Khizan is nearby.
Your foreboding stone glows, warning you that Ferriter is nearby.
Your foreboding stone glows, warning you that Vaughn is nearby.
Your foreboding stone glows, warning you that Hiramius is nearby.
H:763 M:700 S:0 <e- db>
Lionas tells you, "Empress."
H:763 M:700 S:0 <e- db>
Lionas tells you, "Empress."
H:763 M:700 S:0 <e- db>
Your foreboding stone glows, warning you that Kryss is nearby.
Your foreboding stone glows, warning you that Lytharose is nearby.
Your foreboding stone glows, warning you that Khizan is nearby.
Your foreboding stone glows, warning you that Ferriter is nearby.
Your foreboding stone glows, warning you that Vaughn is nearby.
Your foreboding stone glows, warning you that Hiramius is nearby.
H:763 M:700 S:0 <e- db>
Lionas tells you, "Empress."
H:763 M:700 S:0 <e- db>
Fling empress at Lionas added to your EQBAL queue.
H:763 M:700 S:0 <e- db>
Fling empress at Lionas added to your EQBAL queue.
H:763 M:700 S:0 <e- db> Fling empress at Lionas added to your EQBAL queue.
H:763 M:700 S:0 <e- db>
Your foreboding stone glows, warning you that Kryss is nearby.
Your foreboding stone glows, warning you that Lytharose is nearby.
Your foreboding stone glows, warning you that Khizan is nearby.
Your foreboding stone glows, warning you that Ferriter is nearby.
Your foreboding stone glows, warning you that Vaughn is nearby.
Your foreboding stone glows, warning you that Hiramius is nearby.
H:763 M:700 S:0 <e- db>
Your foreboding stone glows, warning you that Kryss is nearby.
Your foreboding stone glows, warning you that Lytharose is nearby.
Your foreboding stone glows, warning you that Khizan is nearby.
Your foreboding stone glows, warning you that Ferriter is nearby.
Your foreboding stone glows, warning you that Vaughn is nearby.
Your foreboding stone glows, warning you that Hiramius is nearby.
H:763 M:700 S:0 <e- db>
[AL] Ahkan - southeast
[AL] Raya - southeast
H:763 M:700 S:0 <e- db>
A shimmering, translucent image rises up before you, its glittering surface displaying the verdant
grasslands, soaring mountains, sprawling settlements and deep blue seas of the Aetherian mainland.
H:763 M:700 S:0 <e- db>
+++++ BALANCE BACK +++++ BALANCE BACK +++++ BALANCE BACK +++++
A hazeward stone prevents the attempt.
Balance Taken: 3.20s
H:763 M:700 S:0 <e- db>
Lionas tells you, "Empress."
H:763 M:700 S:0 <e- db> Fling empress at Lionas added to your EQBAL queue.
H:763 M:700 S:0 <e- db>
Lionas tells you, "Empress."
H:763 M:700 S:0 <e- db> Fling empress at Lionas added to your EQBAL queue.
H:763 M:700 S:0 <e- db>
[AL] Lionas - southeast <-----ALMOST THERE MAN..YOU CAN DO IT!!!!
H:763 M:700 S:0 <e- db>
Your foreboding stone glows, warning you that Kryss is nearby.
Your foreboding stone glows, warning you that Lytharose is nearby.
Your foreboding stone glows, warning you that Khizan is nearby.
Your foreboding stone glows, warning you that Ferriter is nearby.
Your foreboding stone glows, warning you that Vaughn is nearby.
Your foreboding stone glows, warning you that Hiramius is nearby.
H:763 M:700 S:0 <e- db>
Your foreboding stone glows, warning you that Kryss is nearby.
Your foreboding stone glows, warning you that Lytharose is nearby.
Your foreboding stone glows, warning you that Khizan is nearby.
Your foreboding stone glows, warning you that Ferriter is nearby.
Your foreboding stone glows, warning you that Vaughn is nearby.
Your foreboding stone glows, warning you that Hiramius is nearby.
H:763 M:700 S:0 <e- db>
Your foreboding stone glows, warning you that Kryss is nearby.
Your foreboding stone glows, warning you that Lytharose is nearby.
Your foreboding stone glows, warning you that Khizan is nearby.
Your foreboding stone glows, warning you that Ferriter is nearby.
Your foreboding stone glows, warning you that Vaughn is nearby.
Your foreboding stone glows, warning you that Hiramius is nearby.
H:763 M:700 S:0 <e- db>
[AL] Gurn - southeast <------OH NO...RUN LIONAS RUN!!!
[AL] Sadey - southeast
H:763 M:700 S:0 <e- db>
Your foreboding stone glows, warning you that Kryss is nearby.
Your foreboding stone glows, warning you that Lytharose is nearby.
Your foreboding stone glows, warning you that Khizan is nearby.
Your foreboding stone glows, warning you that Ferriter is nearby.
Your foreboding stone glows, warning you that Vaughn is nearby.
Your foreboding stone glows, warning you that Hiramius is nearby.
H:763 M:700 S:0 <e- db>
+++++ BALANCE BACK +++++ BALANCE BACK +++++ BALANCE BACK +++++
You shuffle a card out of your deck and the image of the Empress appears on its surface.
A hazeward stone prevents the attempt.
Balance Taken: 3.20s
H:763 M:700 S:0 <e- db>
Your foreboding stone glows, warning you that Kryss is nearby.
[AL] Kryss - southeast
Your foreboding stone glows, warning you that Lytharose is nearby.
[AL] Lytharose - southeast <----FOR THE LOVE OF GOD MAN, RUN!!!
[AL] Bellentine - southeast
[AL] Seraphyne - southeast
[AL] Leighanna - southeast
Your foreboding stone glows, warning you that Khizan is nearby.
[AL] Khizan - southeast <----- I GUESS ALL THAT OP DRUID STUFF MAKES ONE SLOW
Your foreboding stone glows, warning you that Ferriter is nearby.
[AL] Ferriter - southeast <----- LIONAS HAS STOPPED SCREAMING BY NOW
Your foreboding stone glows, warning you that Vaughn is nearby.
[AL] Vaughn - southeast <------ OH SHI..A BARD
Your foreboding stone glows, warning you that Hiramius is nearby.
[AL] Hiramius - southeast <-----OVERKILL, DONT YOU THINK?
H:763 M:700 S:0 <e- db>
[AL] Ahkan - southeast <----- AHKAN IN SUPERHERO MODE AGAIN
[AL] Raya - southeast
H:763 M:700 S:0 <e- db>
MASS DOWN
You have lost the density defence.
H:763 M:700 S:0 <e- db>
You quickly rub some mass salve on your skin.
MASS UP
You have gained the density defence.
H:763 M:700 S:0 <e- db>
You may apply another salve.
H:763 M:700 S:0 <e- db>
Your foreboding stone glows, warning you that Tristam is nearby.
H:763 M:700 S:0 <e- db> NEED BALANCE
NEED BALANCE
NEED BALANCE
H:763 M:700 S:0 <e- db> NEED BALANCE
NEED BALANCE
NEED BALANCE
H:763 M:700 S:0 <e- db>
+++++ BALANCE BACK +++++ BALANCE BACK +++++ BALANCE BACK +++++
H:763 M:700 S:0 <eb db>
Kryss outfoxed Lionas.
H:763 M:700 S:0 <eb db>
Your foreboding stone glows, warning you that Tristam is nearby.
H:763 M:700 S:0 <eb db>
You pick up a hazeward stone.
I see no "monolith" to take.
You shuffle a card out of your deck and the image of the Empress appears on its surface.
You do not see that individual here.
H:763 M:700 S:0 <eb db>
You pick up a hazeward stone.
I see no "monolith" to take.
Nothing can be seen here by that name.
H:763 M:700 S:0 <eb db>
Your foreboding stone glows, warning you that Shaylei is nearby.
[AL] Shaylei - southeast
H:763 M:700 S:0 <eb db> You reach out and touch the map before you. Your surroundings spin as you melt effortlessly into the
image.
Iluv follows you to the ether. < ---ILUV IS GLEN. NOTICE HOW GLEN ALWAYS GETS AWAY?
The Khandava Archway. (road).
Sometimes try as you might, a kid is gonna miss the bus from time to time
the claims are stated - it's the world I've created
At a broken cart beside the path.
Kryss outfoxed Lionas. <-- I felt sort of bad right here.
You pour out the contents of a thick mug of Jackal's Bile on the ground. <-- For my fallen homie
"On the battlefield I am a god. I love war. The steel, the smell, the corpses. I wish there were more. On the first day I drove the Northmen back alone at the ford. Alone! On the second I carried the bridge! Me! Yesterday I climbed the Heroes! I love war! I… I wish it wasn’t over."
Blanel tells you, "Sorry, this is jeremy, I am testing newbie areas."
Blanel tells you, "This is a temp character."
You tell Student of the Arcane, Blanel, "You're killing my city affinity."
Blanel tells you, "Muhahahha."
Blanel tells you, "Kick me out, I am done with this anyways."
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the claims are stated - it's the world I've created
the claims are stated - it's the world I've created
@Jeremy just prioritizes his time in such a way to allow for the minions to shine. Menial tasks like quitting orgs are below him.
17:56:49 Magick flows out of your crystal, soothing your body and mind.
17:56:49 H:606 M:669 <eb db>
17:56:49 Lady Rosalie Vladin says, "Ready when you are."17:56:49 H:606 M:669 <eb db>
17:56:50 (Ring): You say, "We ready?"
17:56:50 H:606 M:669 <eb db>
17:56:51 Khizan nods his head.17:56:51 H:606 M:669 <eb db>
17:56:52 (Ring): Khizan says, "Go."17:56:52 H:606 M:669 <eb db>
17:56:52 Apoloc touches a cloak tattoo.17:56:52 H:606 M:669 <eb db>
17:56:56 A light rain wets your surroundings.17:56:56 H:606 M:669 <eb db>
order couatl track septus
17:56:57 You whisper briefly to a monstrous cloudy-eyed couatl.
17:56:57 Equilibrium Taken: 4.45s
17:56:57 H:606 M:669 <-b db>
17:57:00 Apoloc's aura of weapons rebounding disappears.17:57:00 H:606 M:665 <-b db>
17:57:00 Apoloc takes a long drag off his pipe, exhaling a thick, white haze.17:57:00 H:606 M:665 <-b db>
t septus
Targeted: septus
17:57:00 H:606 M:665 <-b db>
17:57:01 H:606 M:665 <eb db>
17:57:04 A determined screech escapes the deadly jaws of a cloudy-eyed couatl as he17:57:04 beats his massive wings and propels his weight to the south, leaving a cloud of
17:57:04 dust in his wake.
...See you later couatl
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I was about half a second from saying my prayers and braving engage when the dominos got knocked over.
I normally target nothing when deliverance activates and yell it out on ring to everyone else. Too bad no one else there was able to yell it out for them.
Thems some mighty big shoes to fill, not sure if we can find someone to do that.
A hay-filled scarecrow says, "My my, you have found all of us. You have earned
yourself a special prize."
A hay-filled scarecrow hands you a scarecrow replica.
Finally!
About time you got here Brewsky, I was feeling a bit parched.
Thankski verski muchski budski!
You gaze around you, desire filling your eyes.
What the!?
Monoliths are controlled by the following people.
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A monolith at Before a crooked tree is controlled by nobody
A monolith at Amongst rugged terrain is controlled by Iyrandar
A monolith at Tangle of brush and scree is controlled by nobody
A monolith at A clearing in the Renfrewshire Swamp is controlled by nobody
A monolith at A barren rock glade is controlled by nobody
A monolith at An underground cliff is controlled by Iluv
A monolith at A fern grove is controlled by nobody
A monolith at Where the trail ends is controlled by Therian
A monolith at Beneath a large tree is controlled by nobody