I meant to do this last night, but omg, work. For those of you considering going back to graduate school: Be warned.Ok, so. Bears were incorporated to help Predadurs get kills from limb set ups. Pummel pretty much gives the target limb level 1 limb damage.Standard eq time: 4.2sRaw damage: 155 bluntAfflictions: Level 1 limb break, shriveled limb
Syntax: BEAR QUARTER <target>
If your target has been successfully weakened, you can order your bear to quarter the helpless body, killing its owner instantly. A successful quarter requires that the target is at less than 20% of maximum health, plus 10% per each limb that is broken to the point of requiring a restoration salve (up to a maximum of 60% if all four limbs are broken). [/spoiler]
Pummel is pretty neat in the 1v1 arena. It gives predadurs a much needed way to throw in some extra limb pressure so they can't damage kill you with c-cuts. If they're they're lucky, or good, they can take you out with quarter. In teams, things start to get a little hairy because we're dealing with restoration balance on a shared affliction across three or four classes.
-Kai strike is limited by kai. Generating booku kai is limited by the monk blowing through a ton of mana.
-Plimb is balanced against the fact that it does 0 damage.
-Bear is blocked by parry (which becomes negligible in team combat) and shield.
Basically what happens to the 'victim' of the Game of Quarters, you get stuck in the loop of expending salve balance (~4s) and getting hit with another limb affliction. 1v1, you can stay ahead of the game. It's not that pummel is broken or even that quarter is broken, it's the fact that the restoration salve is doom if you have to spam it. That's 4s of not being able to use a salve cure. Imagine if you were not able to eat an herb for 4s out of a fight and this was brought about by an easily accessed, no-prerequisites skill. Regardless of how it plays out, you can't shield for 4s, you can't apply salves for four seconds and you're about to pick up two more salve afflictions (which means you won't have salves for 8s when you get your "how many limbs are broken damage check.)
As someone already cried about in another thread, "you're making it easier to die to x instant kill, stop it." This remark didn't apply there, but it's reasonably accurate in this scenario. Pummel is pumping out solid health pressure (155 raw blunt @ 4.2s) while playing towards a pretty badass instant kill end game. Two bears becomes ([email protected]) and you won't be able to outpace or avoid the instakill due to salve balances. This runs along the same thought process as the cryfest about dsl/bcry-bellow. The precedent has already be set and held up against forms of combat the don't allow themselves to be effectively countered.
That being said, I'm not really sure how I would fix it, considering the availability of limb damage for AM. My first suggestion is going to be to drop the initial damage output of Bear pummel alone in the range of 50 < pummel < 100. It's still viable, but the sitara would be a better option. I'd almost suggest that the bear pummel be unable to give the level 1 limb damage affliction without some sort of prior hit on the limb. If full hits on the limb --> shrivel limb. If half hits on limb --> break limb. This would allow for more set up, and widen the gap between forced restoration applications.
I'm sure some people are going to reply with things such as: better target priority, bring more people, etc.
Bear pummel and game of quarters doesn't open itself up to being sniped out (like catharsis). there's going to be a back up predadur who can easily quarter. Wardens/Monks/Clerics can offer the limb damage pressure if bear 1 dies. If they don't pull off a quarter, the 150 damage set you up to be bursted down by the rest of the team. Bringing more people is a pitiful argument because it's a variable that's outside the control of the participants. I can't make people log on and I wouldn't try.