The "snuggly atmosphere," as Rokas put it, is what has kept me from making an Antiochian alt Ranger. Knowing that Ithaqua/Antioch are still allies is what keeps me from making an Ithaquan alt Ranger. Former Antioch was great before a select few came into leadership, but I want to avoid personal attacks. All I am saying is that there needs to be some direction there, and some re-prioritization, and some culture shifts.
There is a difference between "talking smack" and killing someone. If you kill me, expect to be killed in return. It's that simple. If you engage in a raid, you're getting bountied. Don't start pvp if you don't want to be a part of it. It's not a thin excuse.